Birds, Dreams, and the Future of the Church

   September 10, 2026       john

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We say young people are important to the church. But do we trust them? Do we listen to them? And are we willing to let their voices change something?

Bonnie Bevers joins John for a conversation about listening to young people, creating ministry with them rather than only for them, and giving them a real voice in the life of the church. They discuss safe spaces, honest questions, intergenerational relationships, adult control, and the dreams young people carry that the church may not yet have language to understand.

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When the Church Shows Up for You

   August 20, 2026       john

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What does it mean when we say, “The church was there for me”?

Too often, we mean the pastor called, the pastor visited, or the pastor prayed. But what about the church member who brings a meal? The person who mows your lawn? The people who make a prayer shawl, pick up your groceries, help you move, sit beside you, or simply pray with the words they have?

John, Tom, and returning guest Lizzie talk about the difference between pastoral care and congregational care, and whether churches have made pastors so central to ministry that we've forgotten the gifts God has given everyone else.

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Things Pastors Think Are Helping

   August 12, 2026       john

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What if some of the things pastors do to help their churches are actually hurting them?

This week, John, Tom Lizzie, and Todd talk about pastors doing too much, trying to be the expert, hiding behind a “pastor” persona, playing it safe in the pulpit, and unintentionally teaching congregations to depend on them. It's a candid conversation about what pastors get wrong and what healthier ministry could look like.

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