A Moving-Season Theology

   May 22, 2026       john

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This week, Tom and John talk about onboarding into new spaces of life and leadership, what it means to step into a church’s hopes and questions, and how presence matters more than pace. Along the way, we wander through weddings, retirement jokes, Amazon habits, and a growing awareness that life is happening right in front of us.

How do we stay awake to our own lives? Not just physically, but spiritually, awake to people, to conversations, to creation, and to God in the ordinary.

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Can a Church Keep Its Identity Through Change

   May 18, 2026       john

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Tom and John talk about pastoral transition, church identity, interim ministry, and what happens when a longtime pastor moves on. What parts of ministry truly last? What belongs to one leader, and what becomes part of the life of a church? 

It’s a thoughtful conversation about leadership, influence, community, and trusting God through change.

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Faith, Blisters, & Walking It Out

   April 22, 2026       john

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We talk a lot in church about “the journey.” Wade decided to actually take one.

This week, we sit down with Jeana Martin—counselor, spiritual director, and pilgrimage guide—to talk about what happens when faith gets out of your head and into your body.

Along the way, we talk about:

– Why people go on pilgrimage – What walking does to your soul – The difference between talking about growth and actually living it – How trauma, faith, and the body are more connected than we think

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