What Salamanders Know About Church Growth

   May 30, 2026       john

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What do salamanders, church growth conferences, and small-town congregations have in common?

More than you'd think.

This conversation starts with the challenges facing small churches and ends with a fascinating discussion about scientists helping mammals regenerate tissue. Along the way, we ask whether churches spend too much time focusing on what they've lost and not enough time recognizing the gifts they already possess.

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A Moving-Season Theology

   May 22, 2026       john

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This week, Tom and John talk about onboarding into new spaces of life and leadership, what it means to step into a church’s hopes and questions, and how presence matters more than pace. Along the way, we wander through weddings, retirement jokes, Amazon habits, and a growing awareness that life is happening right in front of us.

How do we stay awake to our own lives? Not just physically, but spiritually, awake to people, to conversations, to creation, and to God in the ordinary.

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Can a Church Keep Its Identity Through Change

   May 18, 2026       john

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Tom and John talk about pastoral transition, church identity, interim ministry, and what happens when a longtime pastor moves on. What parts of ministry truly last? What belongs to one leader, and what becomes part of the life of a church? 

It’s a thoughtful conversation about leadership, influence, community, and trusting God through change.

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