Can a Church Keep Its Identity Through Change

   May 18, 2026       john

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Tom and John talk about pastoral transition, church identity, interim ministry, and what happens when a longtime pastor moves on. What parts of ministry truly last? What belongs to one leader, and what becomes part of the life of a church? 

It’s a thoughtful conversation about leadership, influence, community, and trusting God through change.

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Faith, Blisters, & Walking It Out

   April 22, 2026       john

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We talk a lot in church about “the journey.” Wade decided to actually take one.

This week, we sit down with Jeana Martin—counselor, spiritual director, and pilgrimage guide—to talk about what happens when faith gets out of your head and into your body.

Along the way, we talk about:

– Why people go on pilgrimage – What walking does to your soul – The difference between talking about growth and actually living it – How trauma, faith, and the body are more connected than we think

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Say It Better, Not Louder

   April 14, 2026       john

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Why doesn’t anyone remember church announcements? In this episode, we sit down with Amanda Banda to talk about the real problem with church communication, and it’s not what you think. From bulletins to social media, we explore why information alone doesn’t stick, and how storytelling can completely change the way people engage with your church. 
We also talk about: 
  • Why authenticity matters more than production quality 
  • How to tell stories in everyday moments 
  • What people actually remember (and why)

Why doesn’t anyone remember church announcements?





In this episode, we sit down with Amanda Banda to talk about the real problem with church communication, and it’s not what you think. From bulletins to social media, we explore why information alone doesn’t stick, and how storytelling can completely change the way people engage with your church. We also talk about: +Why authenticity matters more than production quality +How to tell stories in everyday moments +What people actually remember (and why) E167

  

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